ramshot412
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How come they're always bailing out the big corps and I keep having to pay may taxes no matter what my financial problems are????
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tigeriz
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this is old news.
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148366
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I do not believe this for one minute
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MajorSteve
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So Congress is helping us out?
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MajorSteve
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So Congress is helping us out?
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iluna
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I'm still not feeling very safe. This drop is good for the moment, but what does the future hold? Wait, let me get my Magic Eight Ball & shake it real good.....
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djgunrunner
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This question is 3 days old.
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w4kh
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I don't get it... ECON 101 says if the currency is weak, you need to charge MORE to recover the same real amount...
Ah, hell... everything else is upside down and screwy, why not the oil markets?
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bowler48226
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As usual higher prices.
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EZExit
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I hope that the oil speculators are getting spanked real good!
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TrixieMugsy
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Leave it to all the politicians to screw up something the country desperately needs!
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tbybee
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The bail out is full of pork and will hurt more than help.
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kevski
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time to drop some more
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dyeh
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Yes, oil did plummet - as did other commodities and tradable futures. There is no rhyme or reason, this news didn't 'drive' anything.
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ooops
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Dont do what?
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bdrviper
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old news
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BIGDADDY0034
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DONT DO IT - YOU WILL BE SORRY
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Let's not forget that part of this economic disaster is to blame on the avearage consumers taking out loans they can't afford. Champagne taste on a beer pocketbook.
[Edited by: ooops at 10/2/2008 10:22:35 AM EST]
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roadkillGA
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Housing will stay soft as long as you can't get out to inspect.
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There are worse economic times ahead so oil will fall in price due to lowered demand.
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Chazzer
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I think it was an overreaction ... crude prices will be up again!
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techque
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rochbear points out the housing market went soft, causing this default crisis. and what's the fundamental reason housing and the overall economy have tanked ?? ENERGY PRICES !!
basically, the terrorist states have hit us harder than the terrorist's bombs ever could.
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oh boy
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huh?
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wizzard3040
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Senate bill last evening....SENATE PORK !!! special interest "ear marks" that leads to a BLOATED FED BUDGET!
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OLD OLD NEWS!!!
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keep it down.
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gasman50
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No news here
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ramz77
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there is another vote today...lets wait and see what happens now
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no kidding
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lets get down
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laddyboy62
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lets see what happens when they pass it..
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Too bad it means nothing at the pumps here. Last time Oil was at $96 was roughly Feb. 2008 (according to charts on this site), & gas was $.97- .98 /L where now we feel lucky its dropped to $1.148. That's about .17 / L or $.78 /gal Cdn more now than back then.
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spunky4443
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Should have went down $30, if its going to drop, lets make it worthwhile.
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Senate passed another one last night now it goes to the house and this one seems better it helps everyone.
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Really old news.
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As each day goes by, more pork is added to the "bailout". By the time this mess is acceptable to all parties, it will costs taxpayers around US$3 million each.
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Old news. The Senate passed the (revised) rescue plan last night.
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wizzard1222
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700 BILLION is now going to be 850 BILLION!
"Congressional control on spending"!
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About 3 years ago I was offered an interest only, subprime mortgage on a property I knew I couldn't afford. The loan officer had no business making the offer to me. I told him what I could afford and gave him my basic income and credit information. I had enough sense to walk away, but many people didn't. Neither dems nor repubs are to blame in a situation like that.
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Itsme
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Price per barrel has fallen a long ways since the record high. However, we have not seen near a decline at the pump. Corporate GREED!
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to REVLAW and RochBear: Dems "forced" banks to make sub-prime loans? Where were the loan officers and underwriters who are supposed to evaluate a mortgage applicant to see if they are qualified for a mortgage? How do you "force" a bank to make loans? That's just major BS. There is lots of blames both for banks pushing loans on people not qualified and to the people themselves who don't do their homework before jumping into an interest only or adjustable rate mortgage just to get on the real estate bandwagon.
I've been trying to read from a lot of different sources and it seems there is plenty of blame to go around. I read some congressional testimony earlier that suggested Dems had opportunities back in 2003 to regulate Freddie and Fannie, but as my previous post pointed out, there were lots of villains besides Freddie and Fannie. There was huge pressure in the system from the banks that are now in trouble to get these sub prime mortgages packaged into securities that could be sold for tremendous profit. The pressure was to lower lending standards and get as many loans as possible. It was a classic bubble and then the bottom fell out.
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They are just like fighting show cocks.....a lot of posturing...let's get to the real fighting on the House floor!!!
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It must be a slow news day..
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For all folks who think the "problem" does not touch you ... check the impact on your 401k and other retirement plans that invest in the market. Check the amount of "matching funds" your employer will be making in the future to your retirement plan. Look at the way interest rates have increased in the past couple of days for purchases of simple things like automobiles. Better yet ... try to get an auto loan ... the credit is not as freely available during this period of uncertainty. Banks, credit unions, and other financial institutions are closely scrutinizing credit applications (hope you have never filed bankruptcy). This problem affects the smallest of us all and the impact will be felt by all if confidence in the financial system is allowed to further erode by application of emotion. Follow the money if you want to find the culprit (accountability needed), but first we need an immediate fix to the problem. Simply put ... think.
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Now they will go up?
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The Dems under CLinton forced the banks to make "sub prime" loans. You can look up that law, but if a bank was to make any loans they had to make so many as sub prime.
Now the housing market got a little soft, and these sub prime people simply defaulted, since they were loaned more than 100% of the value of the house. (0% down, plus included the closing costs) So the borrower owed more than the value of the inflated value of the house. Then the house value fell, and these "sub prime" people (who have nothing anyhow) simply walked away.
So The Dems caused the problem with this law, and now we are all screwed. Remember this in NOV. and make sure Nancy P. has to go back to CA and buy her own gas (as an unemployed person)
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itsrich
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Hmmm, so there are greedy people driving prices
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rod1965
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Good, we should not have to rescue these people. let them pay their investors or file for bankrupcy. Look at Donald Trump.
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no kidding keep rejecting till we get to $20 a barrel
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